Tracy - I think you have the first answer right and it is the same for the second. A herd of cattle would only pass by a river if they were properly hydrated and didn't need the drink the water. It sure is hard to figure out what normal eating is sometimes. Since I am slowly trying to transition from meal plan to intuitive eating (with supervision) and sometimes when I ask myself, "am I still hungry" I am quick to think "it seems like I had enough" or "that should have been enough" or "what if I eat more and it's too much" and I end up skimping. I think I am letting my ED is do tricky little restricting things in the name of intuitive eating .Not so good when I'm trying to maintain what I've worked so hard to gain.